What’s goin’ on?

by Patrizzi

Monday at 6:30pm, the Pasadena City Council is scheduled to meet. Me and you you and me, or somebody, maybe anybody, should go to this thing. I know it’s boring, MIND-NUMBING, but there’s a few items listed on the Agenda (see below) that look kinda weird. That is to say, perplexing, possibly even…

suspect.

What do you think?

Source: http://ww2.cityofpasadena.net/councilagendas/2011%20agendas/Sep_12_11/agenda.asp

And, here is a snippet from CEQA Section 15061 (b) 3 on this EXCEMPTION they proceed, however, it is arguable that common sense has anything to do with this:

[Subsection (b)(3) provides a short way for agencies to deal with discretionary activities which could arguably be subject to the CEQA process but which common sense provides should not be subject to the Act.

This section is based on the idea that CEQA applies jurisdictionally to activities which have the potential for causing environmental effects. Where an activity has no possibility of causing a significant effect, the activity will not be subject to CEQA. This approach has been noted with approval in a number of appellate court decisions including the State Supreme Court opinion in No Oil, Inc. v. City of Los Angeles.]

Source: http://ceres.ca.gov/ceqa/guidelines/art5.html

So, what’s going on? First off, we know Los Angeles County Mayor Mike Antonovich ordered an EIR be performed by the Los Angeles County Public Works before undertaking the large sediment removal project in the works. That’s where the whole of Hahamonga gets leveled. Then amazingly, after it’s been completely decimated, the whole place gets landscaped with plastic grass and sports fields.

OKAY! Not the whole place. It’s a watershed, after all. There’s only so much one can do to destroy the City of Pasadena water retention. Personally speaking of water retention, lately, I feel like I am a walking water reservoir ( buried in Johnson “Field”) even though I have cut out the salt!

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25 Responses to “What’s goin’ on?”

  1. Look at that Wreckreation and Parks recommendation.

  2. Show up Show up !!!!!! What are you waiting for? Your underware to dry?

    Move it you Sloths, all you Pasadena Bloggers who talk and talk and talk And Photo, Photo and Photo, and do NOTHING!!!

    Get To It!

  3. Today? This Monday? Now?

    I’ve received a ton of correspondence about this that is so confusing I have no idea what it means. There is a ton of assumed knowledge. Meaning, people assume we all know what it means and we don’t. At least I don’t.

    Thank you for ‘splaining it, at least as much as it’s ‘splainable.

  4. Fritz, it’s still not clear what the implications are of these two items passing through the consent calender without much question or discussion. I attended the last HWPAC and I don’t recall a mention… but then I was freaked out by the committee in general, at the time.

  5. Hi Petrea. ‘spainability is ellusive. Too many little pieces that might matter later. I don’t know.

  6. If only I had more confidence in HWPAC recommendations… but that committee is wacked.

  7. I recognize the content of the first legalese. All that seemed approved on that July meeting, though it looks like it had another Sept meeting on the same subject????

    The agenda for tonights meeting…. translator please! Have you talked with those ladies the other night about this? Robin (me thinks) the blonde woman with the straight hair sitting across the isle from us. Send her an e-mail and maybe she could translate.

  8. I was there at the meeting with you and Liz when the staffers announced they were applying for a grant to get the wide west side bike way (paved) in place, from the end of Tom Sawyer camp to the JPL bridge (maybe it’ll even start by the Oak Grove car park). The grant will also pay for a connector , a wide paved bike and multiuse path, from Oak Grove Drive where it goes past the Fire Station just before the JPL gate, to this new west side bike path.

    The impression I got at the meeting was that it’s really just a grant application for things that were in the Master Plan, some of which we opposed. If this goes through, the little lane with the pepper trees alongside the Rose Bowl Riders will change into a wide paved bike path, and we’ll lose the pepper trees (which are despised because they’re non-native, though the pepper tree should really be given legal immigrant/resident alien status) and other trees and bushes. A new aspect to the plan is that there will be a recreation area/picnic spot (they’re not sure yet whether it will have seats and tables) between Tom Sawyer camp and the west side bike path.

    I took a look at the place where they want a wheelchair accessible path to go down a steep slope from Oak Grove Drive into the Arroyo between the Annex and the Fire Station. I can’t see where drivers are going to park along that stretch while they go for their excursions. Maybe parking is allowed along this wide but sometimes busy stretch of road. I’m all for disabled access but wheelchair users can already park in the lower Oak Grove parking lot and head into Hahamongna from there, and it would be more convenient for them.

    The HWPAC gave the grant application their unanimous support without raising any questions. I’m not going tonight, because I’m weary of fighting every issue. And maybe, in this economic climate, the grant will be turned down.

    Thank you for keeping an eye on what’s going on.

  9. Thank you so much for your comment, Ms. Ellis!

  10. Barbara,
    Are you talking about the July HWPAC meeting? your comments are very interesting.
    For those who come to the Council meeting tonight, I would be happy to explain more about the importance of this grant application.
    Mary Barrie

  11. “legal immigrant/resident alien status” alas, to late for my silver palm to apply

  12. …and by paved we Are talking about pulverized rock and not asphalt? yes?

  13. Lookee here! Take a gander at the Agenda for this Wednesday: Tree Removal In Johnson Field!!!!!!

    http://ww2.cityofpasadena.net/commissions/ufc.asp

    WTF? This may be all about your silver palms, Palm.

  14. UPDATE: at tonight’s city council meeting
    A special thanks goes out to Pasadena Councilman Tornek for daring DARING to question the possibility of over the top development in Hahamongna. THANK YOU! The frogs and toads thank you and so do the birds that live in certain trees that were or may still possibly be destroyed. At least, there is some careful consideration and monitoring going on. What a guy! I love him!http://reader.mac.com/mobile/v1/http%3A%2F%2Fpasadena.granicus.com%2FVPodcast.php%3Fview_id=25

  15. And thanks to the Anonymous Tipsters for the heads up! You know who you are.

  16. Thank you Mr.Tornek for seeing the unsightly.

  17. That’s heartening. About Mr. Tornek, I mean. Wonder if we can get the Tree People involved. This is from their website:

    Trees + people
    Our early efforts in the 1970s focused on educating and inspiring people to plant and care for trees. Why? Because more trees means cooler temperatures, cleaner air, replenished groundwater supplies and a safer, more beautiful city.

    Expanding the tree canopy over L.A. remains one of our central goals. But the worsening impacts of global warming and the looming threat of water shortages tell us we need to do more.

    • “What we don’t do

      Protect trees from being cut down
      Trim residential trees
      Sell, give away or accept donations of live Christmas trees
      Plant trees outside the Los Angeles area”

      From the Tree People website

  18. There are Tree People involved, and most are stumped when it comes to why Pasadena keeps wanting to develop Hahamongna. Some of the Tree People are prejudicial against the non-natives.

    Bike paths and pavement… instead of Peppertrees and animals

    I will never understand the logic of the continous waste Pasadena pursues in Hahamongna. Here you have a beautiful place… you don’t have to do a damn thing to it. Then, there’s the dam thing… uh. Yeah! Okay.

    What we need is HIKER therapy for all the members of the city council. Make them all go out in the woods. It’s different from a park. Danger lurks… survival must be stategized in medievel loins (what?) I read too much. All things are melding into one big wild watery basin. Compost that.

  19. Hahamongna has been the planned sediment dumping ground since day one by the County. These things like soccer fields and bike paths are just something ginned up to cover the real issue. Nobody needs or wants these things, but apparently the City is getting these “amenities” if they support this.

  20. Sediment dumping in Haha? That’s a new one. Here I’ve been bashing my brain to find ways to get it out of there.

  21. Wow. Food for thought, Ms. Barlow. Thank you.

  22. Laurie’s right that there is a plan out there right now (and it has already been funded) to dump 250,000 to 500,000 cubic yards of sediment on the west side of Hahamongna to create new land – either 15 or 23 acres – it has been stated both ways. In any case, the northernmost 4 acres will be used to build the new sports field and expanded parking lot. Note: this is NOT the County’s big sediment removal project. This is another project called the Hahamongna Basin Multi-use Project.
    You can bet when the grant request was sent to Sacramento, no one mentioned how much the community is against additional sports fields in Hahamonga. We pass a bond to improve our water and we get sports fields in the watershed instead.
    Grrr….

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